What operating system do you use?

[benhur99ph]

What operating system do you use?

I'm still using Windows XP Pro but I'm trying to learn Ubuntu now....:D

[danieldosia]

I'm using windows XP sp2, i have win vista ultimate too, but i have to buy a new pc first, then i'll instal it.

[Blackout]

Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger


When leopard comes out I'm buying that

[aswin]

I've used Xp HE sp2 when in cafe, but for mobile and the most, Linux of course :-)

[benhur99ph]

I'd love to try mac but since Mac OS only runs on apple machines, I can't.... though I'm planning to buy a MacBook in the near future....

and as for ubuntu, its a welcome change... very challenging.... not like with windows where everything is spoon fed... hehe.... :mayuri: :nemu:

[SenseiNguyen]

i had windows xp but i just won a vista premium and now i just installed it

[Zenpachi]

Windows XP ftmfw

[Valekraft]

I have now used just about everything and I hate to say it but Windows XP SP2 is just the best out right now especially for a gamer like myself.

[bong91]

well i used windows xp now
and windows vista is awesome. but still i want to learn how to use a linux

[willicex90]

I just recently switched from XP to Vista, and I love the layout.

A lot of my friends though say that Linux is the best, but I'm not to picky as long as the system works.

[Acheron]

XP mostly, I have Vista on a different PC but XP is what I like. I'll end up using Vista when it's straightened out though.

[lorddenis]

i'm stil using Windows XP

[kingofgames902]

IM using XP still I want Vista but i know my old laptop couldnt handle it : (

[benhur99ph]

I just recently switched from XP to Vista, and I love the layout.

A lot of my friends though say that Linux is the best, but I'm not to picky as long as the system works.

well, if you're after desktop layouts and effects... linux is very customizable. you should try the compiz-fusion effects....

:mayuri: :nemu:

[owari-ryu]

well, if you're after desktop layouts and effects... linux is very customizable. you should try the compiz-fusion effects....



I have compiz Fusion, but the cube won't work for some reason:confused: I'm still using beryl for my desktop effects.

to answer the question of what o.s. I use ubuntu and vista on the same pc.

[DIREWOLF]

Win 2K Pro. Old machines still runs 98SE, as it works well i have no reason to replace it with newer, slower o/s(why cant MS ever actually improve performance when going to a new o/s? ).

Might get XP before MS quits selling it, as Vista sucks and XP doesnt and is better for a few things than 2K(even if its not alot of things).

And in general i would recommend people NOT to get Vista in the near future.
Its slow as he**, still needs hoards of bugs worked out of it and has plenty of security holes in it(which if MS goes by its regular pace wont be fully solved until the NEXT o/s gets released... :rolleyes: ).

And if you do get it/have it, make sure you got at least 2 GB RAM or you will be dropping your system performance by 10-50%.

And performance sofar with Vista really stinks.
My old Duron 1Ghz system with 98SE runs in circles around a friends 2 Ghz C2D while its running Vista (so i set him up with dual boot, once he runs Win2K that system gets lightning fast).

[Alexander_Whitewell]

i have a windows vista basic

[vhee]

Mac OS X 10.4.10


on a PowerBook 1.5 GHz G4

[ariadne]

the ever so antique windows me. didn't have time to reformat my comp:)

[benhur99ph]

I have compiz Fusion, but the cube won't work for some reason:confused: I'm still using beryl for my desktop effects.

to answer the question of what o.s. I use ubuntu and vista on the same pc.


that's my problem too, I installed compiz-fusion, all the other effects worked just fine. but I couldn't get the cube thing to work,,

I use an ATI card.... might be the cause....

well I removed it since I can't get the cube.... :confused:

[LeonXGriever]

My PC is windows XP.

But I got a new laptop which is Vista. Currently in the process of updating it with all the things I need =D

[benhur99ph]

I've been hearing alot about vista recently and most of them aren't good... that's why my friend who bought a new laptop formatted right away and installed a new OS.... haha,,

[thongkh]

I've been hearing alot about vista recently and most of them aren't good... that's why my friend who bought a new laptop formatted right away and installed a new OS.... haha,,

yeah, i also have a lot of bad feedback about vista recently, most of them about software compatibility.
as for myself, i'm using winxp sp2. :)

[joe4ever86]

yeah, i also have a lot of bad feedback about vista recently, most of them about software compatibility.
as for myself, i'm using winxp sp2. :)

I haven't encountered any problems with software compatibilty. Usually a program that isn't compatible with vista you can get a patch from the software's website. Most compatibility issues are solved this way.

[thongkh]

I haven't encountered any problems with software compatibilty. Usually a program that isn't compatible with vista you can get a patch from the software's website. Most compatibility issues are solved this way.

thankz for the info, i'll let my friends know about the patch solution. ;)

[pedro punduko]

windows XP

[sidlovesbleachtbh]

i'm using windows XP . but i really love vista. my dads new laptop has it . :@ grrrr

[fr0z3n]

I have Mac on my Pc and Windows XP Pro on my Laptop. I'm switching to Vista on my Laptop when I format it.

[longcat51]

I use Windows. It is very effective for discovering the beautiful knowledge that this world holds. There is no better tool for surfing an internet.

[eye1]

OSX.... for Mac:D

[longcat51]

Eye, my dear friend, I suggest that you use the Windows XP. It is very effective, and has prooved itself much better than this so called Mac.

[DIREWOLF]

I have Mac on my Pc and Windows XP Pro on my Laptop. I'm switching to Vista on my Laptop when I format it.

Suggest you stick to Win XP unless you specifically NEED Vista for something(not likely), because Vista is slow, and on a laptop which isnt likely to have highend performance, Vista could get VERY slow.


Eye, my dear friend, I suggest that you use the Windows XP. It is very effective, and has prooved itself much better than this so called Mac.
Longcat, Mac still has some very valid advantages over Windows, and unless you need something that it doesnt offer that Windows does, Mac IS preferable even if Win XP is still vastly better than most other Windows versions..

[ismart]

I still using Windows XP SP2. Idon't want upgrade to vista, because not all software compatible with vista and i thing my my computer must work hard to run Vista.

[spaxxor]

I still using Windows XP SP2. Idon't want upgrade to vista, because not all software compatible with vista and i thing my my computer must work hard to run Vista.

vista isn't all that bad, on blakc and white it's more secure than xp, linux or mac... it's just, there's no patch to human stupidity, the "deny or allow" doesn
t work with the average person, they just say "i don't care" and hit allow. if you do get vista just don't get the 64 bit version yet, there are not too many programmers that know how to program in a 64 bit environment yet.

I personally use unix based systems, and can't sit still when it comes to it. for starters use debian, or ubuntu, or something usefull... there are alot of useless distros out there. as for me, I'm compiling my own distro, but it won't be mainstream... it won't even leave my hdd.

[kadaj07]

I'm using an xp based computer but i had fedora core 6 on my other pc but i didn't know how to use it so i sold it to someone that did.

[spaxxor]

I'm using an xp based computer but i had fedora core 6 on my other pc but i didn't know how to use it so i sold it to someone that did.

not bad, an all around good system, not for me tho, I'm more into ubuntu. I have to say this, once you learn the command line you never go back, lets say I'm addicted to it ^_^

[kadaj07]

would you consider it a curse or a gift?

[spaxxor]

would you consider it a curse or a gift?

the command line is way more efficient than a gui, so I'd call it a gift. I'm also a shortcut command nut :p

[benhur99ph]

I agree, I also use ubuntu. The commandline may look daunting at first but when you learn it, you'll end up using it more and more. I also use another distro at work. It's called rPath. Looks promising. :mayuri: :nemu:

[spaxxor]

I agree, I also use ubuntu. The commandline may look daunting at first but when you learn it, you'll end up using it more and more. I also use another distro at work. It's called rPath. Looks promising. :mayuri: :nemu:

it does look promising, and the company itself looks good, but then I have to use their services to really say that, which will prolly be next semester for me :p

[thongkh]

WoW, u guys r linux expert.
i did use linux before, tats fedora core 1 & 2. but cant get use to it. so change back to win.

[spaxxor]

WoW, u guys r linux expert.
i did use linux before, tats fedora core 1 & 2. but cant get use to it. so change back to win.

lololol no, I don't know that much about linux, I just know enough to get by on everyday stuff (or the equivilant in linux). I know windows inside and out... that's prolly y I hate it so much... don't get me wrong, every operating system is equal in every way. equal in penetration, user friendliness, etc... I just prefer linux

[thongkh]

lololol no, I don't know that much about linux, I just know enough to get by on everyday stuff (or the equivilant in linux). I know windows inside and out... that's prolly y I hate it so much... don't get me wrong, every operating system is equal in every way. equal in penetration, user friendliness, etc... I just prefer linux

i also like linux, just that i'm too lazy to search for the solution. but now i think linux is much more user friendly. mayb some times later i'll try back linux and ask for your advice ;)

[ph15h]

I dual boot.

I have Vista Home Premium (32-bit) as well as Linux Ubuntu (64-bit). I love them both.

[Moptophaha]

Well, all my life up until about 4 days ago I have used some version of Windows, from 95 when I was very young to XP Professional today. I recently got a notebook and decided to try out Linux. I got myself RedHat, and installed it. Unfortunately, it was an old version, and couldn't find the network card in the notebook I have (acer travelmate 290 series), so I decided to try a different version of Linux. I am trying to get my hands on a version of Ubuntu, but since I can't download anything, I had to go and try to find it on the cover of some PC magazine. I couldn't find Ubuntu, but i did find Mandriva, which I installed about an hour ago.

It didn't even boot. I changed no settings, and it failed.
How disappointing. So now I'm going to try to see if I can find a version of Ubuntu somewhere, as I have heard it is quite good.

Until then, I'll just keep sending those error-reports. :P

[benhur99ph]

To Moptophaha:

You should try ubuntu. It's very popular and has a large user base where you can find answers to about almost any question you might have. But there are many linux distributions out there and each one is different. So if you have the time, try out a few and find which one suits you well.

To thongkh:

Hey, I'm no linux expert. Just started using Linux for 2 months ago. I learned most of the stuff by looking at the forums and searching the net. Luckily, I installed and studied Linux just before starting on my job since my work requires me to use Linux.

:mayuri: :nemu:

[thyshalldie]

using win xp pro, sp2.. but gonna upgrade my come in a few wks time and gonna change it to vista too.. it juz came out quite recently rite.. so, im waiting for it to get stable then go buy it.. had a glimse of its features though.. looks quite interesting.. futuristic in a way.. lol..

[thongkh]

ic, btw just for personal oppinion, which linux dist you think now is most user friendly?

[benhur99ph]

Well, as of now, I have only used two, Ubuntu Feisty and rPath Linux. Pretty much their the same when it comes to GUI since Ubuntu uses Gnome and rPath can use both Gome and KDE. As for the commandline, there is a slight difference since Ubuntu uses the apt-get and rPath uses conary.

In my personal opinion, I would recommend that if you are going to use linux for the first time, you should install Ubuntu because as I've posted earlier, it has a large user base and if you search its forums, you will likely get your answer. Another thing is that there are more applications available in the ubuntu repositories. rPath is still new but it looks very promising. :mayuri: :nemu:

[thongkh]

thankz for the guide :D

[benhur99ph]

No problem. I'm glad I could be of any help. :mayuri: :nemu:

[jimrobins]

Answering to this thread:

I am currently using Windows XP SP2.

I am actually planning to have an internet cafe business and, I am planning to use Windows 2003 Server my 2 high-spec server.

Any comment on this?

[spaxxor]

Answering to this thread:

I am currently using Windows XP SP2.

I am actually planning to have an internet cafe business and, I am planning to use Windows 2003 Server my 2 high-spec server.

Any comment on this?

well, I have little experience with server 2003, but if it's anything like server 2000, then you shouldn't have a problem.

on a side note, the release of xp sp3 was a complete screwup, (i'd like to say something else nudge, nudge) I just hope that they learn from this. at least it's not an entire update related to expanding the licenses.

[jimrobins]

well, I have little experience with server 2003, but if it's anything like server 2000, then you shouldn't have a problem.

on a side note, the release of xp sp3 was a complete screwup, (i'd like to say something else nudge, nudge) I just hope that they learn from this. at least it's not an entire update related to expanding the licenses.

I tried Windows Server 2003 in my workplace and no problems occured to me. Works fine.

I agree with you. SP3 IS not existing, when you ask Microsoft about it. That SP3 is just a bunch of bugs and stuff. That may damage your computer.

[spaxxor]

I tried Windows Server 2003 in my workplace and no problems occured to me. Works fine.

I agree with you. SP3 IS not existing, when you ask Microsoft about it. That SP3 is just a bunch of bugs and stuff. That may damage your computer.

that may be true, they did finally fix alot of bugs, that were known for a long *censored* time... but on a lighter note, they said that there will be functionality along with all those bug fixes

[jimrobins]

The first SP3 release was just from an engineer, not from Microsoft. So, for what I know, SP3 is not existing. The SP3 thing that was release was just fake.

[hishoku92]

xp..
but wit vista theme in it..
so it luks lik vista...:D:D
vista is nt stable nw..
wil consider to buy it when service pack 1 is release...

[DIREWOLF]

Answering to this thread:

I am currently using Windows XP SP2.

I am actually planning to have an internet cafe business and, I am planning to use Windows 2003 Server my 2 high-spec server.

Any comment on this?

Probably a good choice. Only decent competition is likely one of the server Linux distros but W2003S will likely be easier to handle.

[Hollow37]

using Windows XP professional edition
used windows millenium for a while -.- the crapiest operative system ever!!
made my computer crash 10 times a month so i had to formate and re-install everytime! dont use it if you see it throw it away or burn it and spread the ashes for the wind or i will!

:hitsugaya::hitsugaya:

[Choochi]

I use Windows XP Media Center edition, but once I get a new laptop, I think I will have Windows Vista

[spaxxor]

I use Windows XP Media Center edition, but once I get a new laptop, I think I will have Windows Vista

here's a tip, stick with 32 bit vista, because 64 bit still has problems

[Takumi-Kun]

im using win ME (that was like ages, haha.)

but my lappy is using the vista. =)

[Invictus]

Running XP Media Center Edition. Not really looking towards upgrading to Vista anytime soon.

[enpc]

XP sp2. not looking to change. not for a long time.

yeah, i dont have much confidence in vista right now, since ive been able to put it into looping blue screen of death. ill just wait til service pack 50 comes out. the bugs should be fixed by then.

[DIREWOLF]

XP sp2. not looking to change. not for a long time.

yeah, i dont have much confidence in vista right now, since ive been able to put it into looping blue screen of death. ill just wait til service pack 50 comes out. the bugs should be fixed by then.

Mmm, no wonder. I already had to help out several people to either try getting Vista to work or just reinstall XP or 2K.
And by now i only know 2 people running Vista all the time, all others that even have Vista on their systems has dual boot because Vista is so f***ing slow on their systems...

[joe4ever86]

XP sp2. not looking to change. not for a long time.

yeah, i dont have much confidence in vista right now, since ive been able to put it into looping blue screen of death. ill just wait til service pack 50 comes out. the bugs should be fixed by then.

I was getting those blue screens of death the first month i got my laptop with vista, but i figured out what was causing that problem. I've noticed that every time i've finished playing with a game that came with the laptop, i got that blue screen. I deleted all of the games and installed my own game library. As soon as I upgrade to 1gb RAM im gonna upgrade to vista premium but not vista ultimate.

[Pyromanci]

depends on what i am working on. My PC Case has fast HD swapping and i have 1 HD that has XP Pro, 1 HD that has Vista, 1 HD Win2k3, and 1 HD with linux.

So depending on what i am doing i will swap out my OS HD.

[enpc]

I was getting those blue screens of death the first month i got my laptop with vista, but i figured out what was causing that problem. I've noticed that every time i've finished playing with a game that came with the laptop, i got that blue screen. I deleted all of the games and installed my own game library. As soon as I upgrade to 1gb RAM im gonna upgrade to vista premium but not vista ultimate.

yeah, its stuff like that that sets it off :D mine was that i was running the bubble wallpaper and moving backgroung at the same time. :D but i dont think thats the whole story. it was on my mate's laptop which is a macbook, running windows vista ultimate. them macbook though it was an asus, so he could properly install vista (im not sure how legal it was but lets not talk about this) and running ram hungry vista standard (hey, when does vista have something not ram hungry?) programs that just boost the shiny factor...

i think it was a rare case, but still, it completely put me off vista, well more so...

[spaxxor]

XP sp2. not looking to change. not for a long time.

yeah, i dont have much confidence in vista right now, since ive been able to put it into looping blue screen of death. ill just wait til service pack 50 comes out. the bugs should be fixed by then.

I've only put my laptop int bsod mode once, and that was because of heat, and a surge (little tip, vista handles it's ram like a house of cards, you bump it, and it collapses. vista panicked and went :eek: and bsod to the rescue >.<)

[hakim_taicho]

im using win XP...

[YoruichiToRukia]

WinXP, Win2000 and Vista because I HAVE too for work, Linux (but only for a single server and I don't, actually, really, know enough about it) some old legacy Sun Unix machines and a cluster of old SGI Indigo machines doing financial simulation stuff (which every day I pray for them to burst in to flames so we can replace them with something out of the 21st century)

But on my desk at work and my desk at home I run OSX 10.4 (and will even for some weeks/month after OS X 10.5 comes out though I will have it on one of my old laptops for evaluation and testing).

Officially we don't support Mac OS X at work but I've told the CEO that they can take my mac away from me when they pry it out of my cold dead hands.

[enpc]

linux server u say? i know what u mean. we dont exactly have a router for out interwebs right now, instead were running a linux server box. its nice and all, but it can be really tempromental and if there is a blackout (had one about half an hour ago) u have to manually restart it. fun. we have an IT guy who looks after it cause i dun know how the thing works. hoping to upgrade to a linksys router though, although for most stuff, the server is great. cant torrent though, only downside.

[nervaise]

i'm using win-xp home but i'm just waiting 4 the sp1 of win-vista to install it!

[YoruichiToRukia]

linux server u say? i know what u mean. we dont exactly have a router for out interwebs right now, instead were running a linux server box. its nice and all, but it can be really tempromental and if there is a blackout (had one about half an hour ago) u have to manually restart it. fun. we have an IT guy who looks after it cause i dun know how the thing works. hoping to upgrade to a linksys router though, although for most stuff, the server is great. cant torrent though, only downside.

It's a stopgap file server for a few Mac users and secondary Open Directory server. We actually have a few Linux servers but that one's the only one I have anything to do with as I'm the Mac tech.

It will get swapped out next year when we get a Xserve which will take over both those roles.
Both the Windows and the Mac users used to use an ancient Firmware Linux based NAS box for roaming profile storage but it kept getting hacked a few months back so we binned it and set up a normal Ubuntu Linux server system.

At home my housemate has a Ubuntu Server as well for his CS studies network, but, as it's a Japanese distro I can't make heads or tails of it (nor the Japanese Wii he owns) :lol:

[enpc]

kk. xserve, isnt tak like a mac server rack or sumthing?

[hardyzs]

Windows XP Pro.. It very friendly user..
but now i want to switch it to Vista..

[benhur99ph]

WinXP, Win2000 and Vista because I HAVE too for work, Linux (but only for a single server and I don't, actually, really, know enough about it) some old legacy Sun Unix machines and a cluster of old SGI Indigo machines doing financial simulation stuff (which every day I pray for them to burst in to flames so we can replace them with something out of the 21st century)

But on my desk at work and my desk at home I run OSX 10.4 (and will even for some weeks/month after OS X 10.5 comes out though I will have it on one of my old laptops for evaluation and testing).

Officially we don't support Mac OS X at work but I've told the CEO that they can take my mac away from me when they pry it out of my cold dead hands.

Wow... its nice that you get to use a different number of operating systems. and about those really old computers that you wish to burst into flames... hhehe... good luck with that.. :mayuri: :nemu:

[tomu]

At school Windows XP Professional, at home often Windows XP Home Edition and now almost always Windows Vista Home Basic 'cause my lil' bro doesn't like the last one and all his passwords and stuff are in the XP.

[pogy71]

Got my new laptop with vista in it. Love the layout but still using XP at work.

[rukia2]

XP sp2

I've heard alot of bad things about Vista - especially with the online games I play, so I'm not looking to upgrade anytime soon.

[enpc]

XP sp2

I've heard alot of bad things about Vista - especially with the online games I play, so I'm not looking to upgrade anytime soon.

yeah, no, avoid it like the plague.
on a new note, has anybody got themselves a copy of Mac OSX 10.5 Leopard. because if u have, i am very disappointed in u. its just a shinier version of the old one! seriously, avoid that too.

yeah, u can see im a huge mac fan (yeah right.... that'll be the day.)

[wannabegod]

UBUNTU ftw
The nice thing with linux is that everything actually works :D

[DIREWOLF]

UBUNTU ftw
The nice thing with linux is that everything actually works :D

Mmm once you manage to get it set up correctly that is. And the downside is exactly that it isnt easy to set up alot of times. ;)

[enpc]

Mmm once you manage to get it set up correctly that is. And the downside is exactly that it isnt easy to set up alot of times. ;)

and with all of the little moving thingies, it has the ability to axe ur ram if ur not too careful.

[wannabegod]

Mmm once you manage to get it set up correctly that is. And the downside is exactly that it isnt easy to set up alot of times. ;)

you think so? I found it quite easy... and if you cant get it working, you just ask the closest nerd you know ^^

@enpc: little moving thingies? You mean Beryl or Compiz? These are easily shut down if you think your pc isn't fast enough... But mine is, and its cool that I can press ctrl+alt and click and move the Mouse, and I can control my desktop as if i was in a computer game :D

[miva2]

windows vista here. it came with my new computer. didn't really had problm with it. if a program doesnt work on vista you just have to run it in XP mode. everything works fine :) except my internet is doing weird sometimes but thats caused by the router

[benhur99ph]

Yep. I also use ubuntu... and fedora... and rPath... by far, I can say that the most user friendly among the three is ubuntu. Right now I'm using the latest Ubuntu version (7.10 Gutsy Gibbon). Upon installation, it recognized all my hardware right away. It even told me that I need to enable the restricted drivers for my video card... which is cool and went without a problem. But as with most Linux distributions, I needed to configure some stuff myself. But it's so easy. I just searched the forums and viola! An answer right away.

Though I can't say the same about rPath Linux since it's a fairly new distribution and compared to ubuntu and fedora, there isn't a large user base to back it up. I use it at work and I have to really experiment at it myself. But its a good thing since I'm learning new stuff on my own.

As for the desktop effects... they're great and works perfectly on my system even with an average PC setup [3Ghz Pentium Processor, 512mb RAM, 128mb Video Card]. A few tweaks here and there and now its running perfectly.

A note to some: If you plan on using Linux, be prepared to do some research since in using Linux, not everthing is "spoon-fed" like when using MS Windows. Some programs are easy to install while some may take some time and patience. But there are advantages. Viruses won't really bother you. Low system requirements. Cool "eye-candy". And the best of all, IT IS FREE.

[XRattlesnake]

I'm still using Windows....currently XP.

[DIREWOLF]

you think so? I found it quite easy... and if you cant get it working, you just ask the closest nerd you know ^^



Hehe, well that might be a bit hard since i AM the local resident nerd here. :D

And no it certainly ISNT easy unless you get lucky and all hardware drivers works right away(and exists...).
An example, my friend is installing Linux on a box recently, and most things went smooth enough, until he found that he didnt know exact model on the installed NIC(and no automatic configuring), which meant he couldnt get drivers set up for it, at all, since it refused all his tries with drivers that probably should have worked despite not being the original one.
So he got it running, but it was supposed to be part of a network, and the NIC still doesnt work. I think he got it working using a USB cable hookup, even if its slow.

[enpc]

exactly,. why bother with all of the frustration of linux when u can use XP. and btw, all of the little moving thingies just annoy me anyways.

@DIREWOLF - its good to have another nerd on the forum, it makes me feel at home :D

[XRattlesnake]

Yep. I also use ubuntu... and fedora... and rPath... by far, I can say that the most user friendly among the three is ubuntu. Right now I'm using the latest Ubuntu version (7.10 Gutsy Gibbon). Upon installation, it recognized all my hardware right away. It even told me that I need to enable the restricted drivers for my video card... which is cool and went without a problem. But as with most Linux distributions, I needed to configure some stuff myself. But it's so easy. I just searched the forums and viola! An answer right away.

Though I can't say the same about rPath Linux since it's a fairly new distribution and compared to ubuntu and fedora, there isn't a large user base to back it up. I use it at work and I have to really experiment at it myself. But its a good thing since I'm learning new stuff on my own.

As for the desktop effects... they're great and works perfectly on my system even with an average PC setup [3Ghz Pentium Processor, 512mb RAM, 128mb Video Card]. A few tweaks here and there and now its running perfectly.

A note to some: If you plan on using Linux, be prepared to do some research since in using Linux, not everthing is "spoon-fed" like when using MS Windows. Some programs are easy to install while some may take some time and patience. But there are advantages. Viruses won't really bother you. Low system requirements. Cool "eye-candy". And the best of all, IT IS FREE.

I'm new to linux distribution, and after reading what you typed I feel this enthusiasm to learn more about it. Can you tell me more about them and what's the comparison between them and Windows?

[enpc]

ill let benhur99ph go into detail, but linux is alot more open source, so u can change settings alot more. its like a developer's OS, cause u can mod it how u like. the only problem is that for certain things, u gotta run an emulator. i think all of this is correct but let me know if im wrong.

[XRattlesnake]

Ah mean from what you're saying it's right 'cause I asked a friend of mine who happens to be a professional at computers. But, I couldn't really find more info since he never used it before. Thanks for the info though.

[benhur99ph]

It's a really hard transition from MS to Linux. They're very different from one another. From installing drivers, applications, to configuring the settings. Each has its own way of getting things done. For me, the good thing about windows is that it is very user friendly and most of us are already accustomed to using it since we grew up using MS at school and at home. But the one thing that made me want to try Linux is its flexibility. Anyone can modify their OS and re-distribute it. There are lots of Linux distributions available and you will eventually find something that's right for you.

As for the programs available. If you really want to use Linux but can't live without some of your windows applications, there is a way. A Linux program called "Wine" can let you run some MS programs on your Linux machines. But, there are compatibility issues sometimes. If you have the time and patience, I suggest that you search for alternative applications on Linux. For example, instead of using Photoshop you can use Gimp. For instant messengers Linux has Pidgin. Frostwire instead of Limewire (basically they're the same). Torrent Clients are many, a few are Deluge, Azerus, and Ktorrent. For programming Linux has Gambas, which I've read supports multiple programming languages (haven't tried it yet). There are many more.

My final suggestion for you is if you really want to try Linux, you can do a dual boot system. That way, you can experiment on it first and if you don't like it, you can just delete it. :mayuri: :nemu:

[XRattlesnake]

It's a really hard transition from MS to Linux. They're very different from one another. From installing drivers, applications, to configuring the settings. Each has its own way of getting things done. For me, the good thing about windows is that it is very user friendly and most of us are already accustomed to using it since we grew up using MS at school and at home. But the one thing that made me want to try Linux is its flexibility. Anyone can modify their OS and re-distribute it. There are lots of Linux distributions available and you will eventually find something that's right for you.

As for the programs available. If you really want to use Linux but can't live without some of your windows applications, there is a way. A Linux program called "Wine" can let you run some MS programs on your Linux machines. But, there are compatibility issues sometimes. If you have the time and patience, I suggest that you search for alternative applications on Linux. For example, instead of using Photoshop you can use Gimp. For instant messengers Linux has Pidgin. Frostwire instead of Limewire (basically they're the same). Torrent Clients are many, a few are Deluge, Azerus, and Ktorrent. For programming Linux has Gambas, which I've read supports multiple programming languages (haven't tried it yet). There are many more.

My final suggestion for you is if you really want to try Linux, you can do a dual boot system. That way, you can experiment on it first and if you don't like it, you can just delete it. :mayuri: :nemu:

It sounds very awesome. Once I get the money, I definately need to explore it. But, one thing that you said that concerned me. When you said find alternative programs to replace the programs that I might miss from MS such as AIM to Pidgin...If that's the case, wouldn't my buddies who uses AIM can't IM me when I'm on Pidgin? And that they probably have to dl the same software.

[enpc]

It sounds very awesome. Once I get the money, I definately need to explore it. But, one thing that you said that concerned me. When you said find alternative programs to replace the programs that I might miss from MS such as AIM to Pidgin...If that's the case, wouldn't my buddies who uses AIM can't IM me when I'm on Pidgin? And that they probably have to dl the same software.

i think it can work betwenn programs, like how Mac instant Messenger can talk to MSN. and u know linux is free right?

[nightwish]

Not all Linux distro's are free.

But alot of good ones are.

[benhur99ph]

Pidgin supports a variety of messenger accounts. You can use AIM, Yahoo, and others. You specify it when you add a user ID. You can try it now if you like. There is a Pidgin installer for windows too.

[XRattlesnake]

Ooo...sounds perfect when you said "a lot of good ones are FREE".

[benhur99ph]

Yep. Most of the good ones are free... you can check

http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity

:mayuri: :nemu:

[yeoman]

Vista home

[Dubtiger]

Vista... (Don't hurt me >.>)

[benhur99ph]

I heared that there will be a service pack 1 for vista that's due to come out soon. Anybody knows when it will be released? All I keep seeing are Betas.... :mayuri: :nemu:

[dt42]

I dual boot Mac OSX Tiger and Windows Vista Ultimate

[spider11]

i have just brought a new pc with some decent spec and a nvidia 8 series low end card so that i can atleast play all new games at low resolutions..and wista runs great with core2 duo and the nvidias graphics.... i have got both xp and vista installed..whenever i think of playing games i boot to vista and play games.........

[silvereyesrose]

I have Widow Vista at home. I liket at least at my computer work propertly and i havent had any problem yet with this.

[enpc]

I have Widow Vista at home. I liket at least at my computer work propertly and i havent had any problem yet with this.

hahahaha. the key work is YET. when u say at home, do u mean windows vista home or its on ur home computer?

@spider11 - too bad vista doesnt like to run with vista.

[benhur99ph]

A question? Have any of you Vista users been experiencing a weird problem with the Windows Media Player 11? The laptop that my cousin is using is installed with vista and whenever he plays something on the media player, whether be it a movie or an mp3, when you close the media player by hitting the x button on the top right portion of the window, the window closes but the sound continues to play. You must first press the stop button before you close it... weird...... :mayuri:

[joe4ever86]

I use Vista Basic but I have never experienced that problem that your friend is experiencing benhur99ph. It's weird that your friend's WMP11 is doing that, maybe the WMP11 needs to be reinstalled?

[zabimaru08]

Windows XP, Windows Vista is awesome though, a few computers at my school have it.

[yeoman]

Vista Business in office and Home Premium at home.

[YoruichiToRukia]

Call me slow ("YOU'RE SLOW"... yeh yeh I asked for that)... Just got round to setting up Boot Camp & Parallels 3 on my mac after configuring a few at work.


Seriously it doesn't matter if you sit on the "Windows lovin" or the "mac fanboy" side of the fence there is something inherently creepy, yet some how satisfying in a "Where is your God Now?" sort of way watching Windows boot and run (and run fast) on a Mac.

damn the MacBook Pro sitting on my desk runs Vista faster than the New Toshiba Laptop pre installed with it does (now time's over for experimenting time to blow Vista away on both machines and knock them down to XP Pro)

[nightwish]

So mac has "BootCamp", I (PC) can have as many OS as I can fit on my hard drive(s), flash drive(s), external drive(s) and floppy/CD!

I would love to see you fit more then four operating systems on a mac, AND get them alll to work properly.

[YoruichiToRukia]

So mac has "BootCamp", I (PC) can have as many OS as I can fit on my hard drive(s), flash drive(s), external drive(s) and floppy/CD!

I would love to see you fit more then four operating systems on a mac, AND get them alll to work properly.

done... mac OSX 10.4, mac OSX 10.5 (ported from my PowerMac), Windows Vista, Windows XP pro, Fedora and just wondering if to do Ubuntu before I hit the sack (it's past midnight here and have to be at work by 6am)

Admittedly I just set up OSX 10.4 and 10.5 and XP on partitions and have Vista and Fedora in virtual machine environments but that's still 3 boot OS's (so far) and I can run XP, Vista and Fedora in their own VM space on either OSX Host boot... doesn't seem to want to let me run OSX 10.5 guest in a 10.4 host (or viceversa but thats not surpassing as only 10.5 Server will allow other Mac OS's to be virtualized with in it)

[enpc]

but why? who needs more than one operating system at a time.

[YoruichiToRukia]

but why? who needs more than one operating system at a time.

quite a few people... particularly IT people....

currently I have 3 computers on my desk... cut that down to one and I'd be happy.

also not all software is available for all operating systems. a lot of our researchers have old DOS (yeh DOS now we are going back in to the dark ages) programs that wont run under XP or Vista. More commonly they have Unix programs (or specifically Unix source code) so need to run Linux or FreeBSD under virtual machine environment)


Our few mac users use Parallels so they can use our Microsoft DotNet programed (so Windows only) financial/payroll systems and access the full functionality of our Exchange server (Entourage for Mac and iCal are very limited or simply can't do certain things with MS-Exchange managed shared folders, shared e-mail accounts, shared calendars etc)

Ironically to when the Intel Macs first came out Adobe hadn't yet released CS3 (which is optimized for Intel Mac) so the old non optimized versions ran like a dog in the Intel Mac OS's PowerPC Hardware emulator. So they "sidegraded" their Mac CS2 in to Windows CS2 and ran Photoshop/Illustrator in Bootcamp or Parallels.

[Patah]

I'm using XP sp2...... but maybe when vista is compatible for online games i will change to it (maybe i'll changed my pc also at that time)

[benhur99ph]

Yeah.. We IT people sometimes need to use different operating systems at a time, and (in my experience) some software runs better on linux and some on windows. So instead of using two computers, it would be convinient to just use one computer with multiple operating systems. VMware works great... (but I have yet to use a Mac.....wish I had one though...) :mayuri:

[HeroicFool]

I use XP, it does the job just fine. No need to change IMHO.

[enpc]

well, im not an IT person so i wouldnt know...

[simanda]

currently, I'm using XP SP2 :D

haven't been enough interested to go with vista, though...

[enpc]

currently, I'm using XP SP2 :D

haven't been enough interested to go with vista, though...

there will never be enough interest to go with vista :p

[Patah]

there will never be enough interest to go with vista :p

agree on you with that.... maybe in a few years only there will be enough interest...... :p :p :p

[tensa-zangetsu]

vista is so cool, it has a scroll feature where all ur windows are up and you can flip through them like a book, and there are so many new features

[enpc]

vista is so cool, it has a scroll feature where all ur windows are up and you can flip through them like a book, and there are so many new features

yes, but how much ram does it axe to do it?

[joycee09]

I actually am using both Vista and XP.

My Laptop>> Vista (I just love its features)
My PC>> XP, nothing compares. I think XP is really built for PC's not for laptops.

ciao

[benhur99ph]

vista is so cool, it has a scroll feature where all ur windows are up and you can flip through them like a book, and there are so many new features

uhmmm.. I don't mean to rain on your parade but Linux has been doing desktop effects for years and the ones on vista are nowhere near the effects that you can have on linux. If you like the "Flip-3D" effects of Vista, then Compiz will blow you away..... :mayuri:

[Cerique]

XP, technically, but it's pretty much skinned to a mac interface ;)

[benhur99ph]

Hahaha... When I was using XP I also skinned it to look like Mac. I used Flyakite OSX. It modified almost all of the interface. Then I installed some widgets. :mayuri:

[enpc]

macskin!? away evil!! why would u do that? its just.... MADENING!!!!! they need a bleach skin for windows. :D

[anima9]

i use vista home basic

[neokyo]

I'm using Xp now, but i'm used mandriva sometimes

[benhur99ph]

macskin!? away evil!! why would u do that? its just.... MADENING!!!!! they need a bleach skin for windows. :D

Well... you know how much the interface of windows sucks.... you can't blame someone if they want to mod it... right... hehehe... :mayuri:

[slinky]

My hb and I are both in IT so we have 4 notebooks and 3 desktops. My 2 home desktops (which I seldom use since I had my notebook) and old Fujitsu lifebook (which is now my mp3 server in office) are still running Win2K cuz it was too expensive to buy so many copies of WinXP:o

Our notebooks and my office desktop are currently running on WinXP SP2. I'll probably delay upgrading my OS to Vista as far as possible. Recently, we bought a new Vaio that came with Vista Business Edition. We did give Vista a chance by trying it out for 1 day before we downgraded the OS to winXP SP2. I admit the interface and other nitty witties are nice, but, those are insignificant to me. I don't really like Vista cuz its too "user-friendly" and we cant control or tweak many things (even simple thing like individual folder view options seemed to have been removed in Vista), unlike XP or Win2K.

The current situation Vista is in now reminded me of how XP was when it first launched. Software and driver incompatibility issues, security issues, and bugs are my main concerns (just like XP back in 2001). I guess it'll probably at least another 1/2year to 1 year for Vista to stabilise. I don't normally use freshly launched OS because they're usually very buggy (Vista already have tonnes of reported bugs that are currently unfixed). Buggy OS would mean alot of security loopholes as well.

Anyway, eventually, we'll all have to move on to Vista, like it or not, cuz Mr Gates will eventually stop giving support for WinXP, forcing you to upgrade to Vista. Well, I only upgraded to XP in 2004, when Microsoft stopped supporting Win2K.:mad:

[enpc]

Well... you know how much the interface of windows sucks.... you can't blame someone if they want to mod it... right... hehehe... :mayuri:

i like the interface that windows has. if u ask me, its pretty well done. thats XP btw, not vista.

[BigTaco]

I have 3 desktops, one has xp(to play games), my centOS development server, and my mac pro.I would have to choose one, i would pick my mac. Probably, because I love how apple products look.

[Enzeru no Kurayami]

vista and xp mill. vista's pretty annoying, its hard to use efficiently without tons of practice. its not so bad, i just dont like it.

[ichigopwns929]

i use a xp

[Vizards]

I use the common OS, windows XP.

[BleachFancy]

I've Windows XP on Compaq. Works pretty good, just very low on memory now.

[TJones2882]

Currently have 3 machines and one laptop using XP Pro SP2 right now. I've been thinking about installing linux on the file server machine just haven't had time to get it done.

[benhur99ph]

Now.. that's a good idea!!! [I sound so biased]... but Linux is a great OS!! and I can't stop talking about it... there are so many choices out there.... I know using open source may be daunting at first since most of us computer users have been spoiled and accustomed to using ms windows. I know that converting from windows to linux may be daunting at first, but you see, how often dou you hear about viruses of security issues when it comes to linux???

When I fitst started, I had a hard time adjusting from MS to Linux... but with a little research on the net and posting messages on the forums I got on to it right away...

(forgive a linux freak) hahahaha... :mayuri:

[angeleyes]

Mac - OS X Leopard

PC - OS Windows XP Media Center Edition

I'd like to say that Windows is ebil, at least for me it is anyway. LoL..

[enpc]

Mac - OS X Leopard

PC - OS Windows XP Media Center Edition

I'd like to say that Windows is ebil, at least for me it is anyway. LoL..

well, thats what any mac user would say :D

[angeleyes]

Actually lol...I've had problems with Windows before I owned a mac since after Window's 98 to be exact. :p

ME, 2000, XP, and Vista are all ebil! T_T

well, thats what any mac user would say :D

[enpc]

Actually lol...I've had problems with Windows before I owned a mac since after Window's 98 to be exact. :p

ME, 2000, XP, and Vista are all ebil! T_T

bah, its just that windows requires abit of lovin'

[d0rk]

Still on Windows XP~ Getting the new Vista soon xD

[enpc]

Still on Windows XP~ Getting the new Vista soon xD

and ur happy about that?

[benhur99ph]

Does Windows Vista come with the "For the next 30 days and you find that I'm a crappy OS then you can return me for a full refund" kind of guarantee???

hehehe... peace.. :mayuri:

[enpc]

its 60 days and its compolsory thank u very much.

[benhur99ph]

hahaha..... so its compulsary then.... :mayuri:

[enpc]

hahaha..... so its compulsary then.... :mayuri:

something like that, unless u know the "kick microsoft in the nuts" command in the command prompt.

[benhur99ph]

something like that, unless u know the "kick microsoft in the nuts" command in the command prompt.

hahaha... nice one... but I wonder why so many people still cling on to windows? (I'm talking about home users who use windows for desktop purposes only, since some might say that they need it for work or something.)
Why are there still so many who won't even try alternatives..... :mayuri:

[bandicoq]

Computer science engineer.Use Xp pro and Ubuntu.I think linux buddies are really doing a good job out threre

[miva2]

hahaha... nice one... but I wonder why so many people still cling on to windows? (I'm talking about home users who use windows for desktop purposes only, since some might say that they need it for work or something.)
Why are there still so many who won't even try alternatives..... :mayuri:

Microsoft is known more than mac or linux among average people. alot of people who don't know anything/much about operating systems don't really care what operating system they have and won't even notice the difference if they have another one.i don't really see alot of difference between mac's and MS pc's(ofcourse except for the interface n stuff). don't really care either. i don't really have problems with windows vista. it works fine.except my internet sometimes fails but since i use firefox i fon't have any problems anymore.

[enpc]

exactly. most people n the computer world (im guessing about 90%) a quite retarded when it comes to computers. other than using it to go on myspace, msn, type up the occasional word document or listen to music they downloaded off of limewire(yay, concratulations, u found a rubbish torrent system) they wouldn't have a clue what an operating system actually is. for example at work (yes, i have to do tech support, no i dont get paid for it) a lady i was dealing with was confused when i asked her to open up "My Music". most people dont want to change, honestly because they dont have the capacity. well thats my belief anyways. then again u will get people shifting from PC to Mac because its shiny and more idiot proof than PC is. but never underestimate people's lack of knowledge.

[benhur99ph]

Computer science engineer.Use Xp pro and Ubuntu.I think linux buddies are really doing a good job out threre

Yes they are... Linux has really come a long way in the past couple of years. The reason being is because it is opensource. Developers don't have to be bothered by legal issues when modifying the code. In fact, they're even encouraged to do so. :mayuri:

[enpc]

Yes they are... Linux has really come a long way in the past couple of years. The reason being is because it is opensource. Developers don't have to be bothered by legal issues when modifying the code. In fact, they're even encouraged to do so. :mayuri:


but thats how most good software is made. people say, i could do a better job at this, and they do it. thus programmer grade software is invented.

[benhur99ph]

Yes. That's healthy competition which benefits all... :mayuri:

[enpc]

especially the people who want free stuff :D

[benhur99ph]

especially the people who want free stuff :D

uhh... that's everbody... right?? :mayuri:

[Yachiru11232]

I using Vista...I hate it and want it down graded to XP but I'm okay with it to a certain degree

[benhur99ph]

Why don't you wait till the sevice pack 1 for vista comes out..? There should be improvements... :mayuri:

[Leif_001]

I am still using Windows XP PRO. It is because it is easy to use. What other OSs that are easy to use?

[benhur99ph]

I am still using Windows XP PRO. It is because it is easy to use. What other OSs that are easy to use?

So, you're still using XP Pro... I suggest you stick to it and don't consider "upgrading" to vista just yet. As for your question regarding what other OS's are easy to use --> some say MAC (I haven't tried it so I can't really say anything), another is Ubuntu Linux... try it on VMWare first or use the Live cd... that should give you a pretty good idea on how easy it is to use...

[enpc]

avoid linux. ur just supporting benny^^^^ :p
im not sure if they changed it, but linux u have to run emulators for certain programs. just stick with xp. it makes life so much easier.

[benhur99ph]

yes.... unless you can try to learn alternative programs for your favorite windows apps, you need to use emulators... if you can't live without them then enpc's right... just stick to xp....

[Assign]

Yea, I'm running Windows XP and I love it the only thing I need to do is switch from Norton (its horrible).

[enpc]

Yea, I'm running Windows XP and I love it the only thing I need to do is switch from Norton (its horrible).

its not that bad. just dont pair it with vista. ram hungry plus ram hungry equals not enough for gaming T_T

[benhur99ph]

What enpc said is true... I've seen it happen... Vista+Norton... whew.. [shivers]...

Try that combination for a week, then count the gray hairs that you gained after,, hehe

:ulquiorra:

[enpc]

its like watching a freight train hitting a squirrel at full speed. the same thing happens to ur ram as does to the squirrel. yeah, u might wanna get a copy of avg or something. (i thought an analogy might help people understand better :D)

[benhur99ph]

That's some analogy ... haha.. but, nevertheless, it true... :ulquiorra:

[d_razor]

HAHA i am sorry to have to agree Norton is a ram sucker i am gonna switch to another anti virus soon any ideas?
I use XP now but i used to use vista and it just sucks.
I say just stick to xp then you'll be safe linux and mac are hard to get the hang when your used to windows.

[benhur99ph]

Try using those free antiviruses offered on the web, There are pretty decent ones. They're free and don't eat up too much ram. :mayuri:

[joe4ever86]

Has anyone noticed that the new PC's with quad core technology aren't exactly using all 4 cores. The current bios software that's available aren't made to use 4 cores, only 3 :D

I've noticed that some laptops can run Vista really well such as some Sony VAIO and some HP laptops

[benhur99ph]

Wow... quad core's nice... but since I don't have the budget for it.. I'll just stay with my current setup... I only use it for internet and playing movies.... so I'm good... hahaha...

[enpc]

i need to install server on my second computer. ill get round to it eventually.

[Serene Melody]

The operating system I am currently using is Windows XP Home Edition. Considering the fact it is basic, it does a rather decent job so I cannot complain. But I wish it were Windows XP Professional instead, I miss some of the additional features since they were removed from XP Home Edition. At the moment, I am trying to find a suitable operating system that is compatible with online gaming. So it is a choice between Windows XP Professional and experimenting with Vista. I will have to look into these systems closely.

[nightwish]

Dont mess with Vista, alot of games just dont work with it, people all over gaming forums keep complaining about it and then go back to XP.

Stick with XP Home or XP Pro , Pro ftw...even though I dont even use 90% of the "extra features" it has. Remote Desktop is good enough for me.

[danieldosia]

Any games runs on vista, no mater it's from the 60's or from 2007. If anyone has some proof i'd like to see it. I've tried games like UT 2004, GTA VC, NFS 6 and 7, Painkiller (the first one) and other pretty old games on it, i evem tried Day Of Tentalce (made in 1993 or something like that) so i really am curios if vista has games or compatibility problems, and another thing, there is something that the microsift guys made a long time ago, and they made it in Vista too, it's called Compatibility Wizard, for all of you that say games don't run on vista just use this and proove me wrong, proove me that you can't play nfs 1 or doom 1, quake 1 or doom 1 on vista or any other game that was made in the 90's or even older. I have yet to see a program or game that can't run on vista and i have arround 56 installed on it . (i even made trackmania nations which crashed vista 4 times, work - the famous blue screen was revealed to me:D (it looks better in vista:p))

[enpc]

(i even made trackmania nations which crashed vista 4 times, work - the famous blue screen was revealed to me:D (it looks better in vista:p))

what, it just looked shinier with moving letters or something?

[danieldosia]

:D no but it has more info on what caused the problem and it solves itself (most of the time) you don't have to go crazy with the keyboard, or throw the computer from the 10th floor :)

[enpc]

well then, thats not as bad as what im getting from my server: no keyboard or keyboard error, press F1 to continue.

[twister]

i am using windows xp sp2. and it doesn't give me any trouble. i read that especially in vista when u try to install some of the program some errors might occur. viste needs more time i think. other operating systems are not common here (turkey). no need to switch to other systems.

[benhur99ph]

what, it just looked shinier with moving letters or something?

O_O WOW!!! I never thought that they would enhance the look of the BSOD!! I mean... really??? I haven't seebn it yet.... hehehe.. :mayuri:

[enpc]

O_O WOW!!! I never thought that they would enhance the look of the BSOD!! I mean... really??? I haven't seebn it yet.... hehehe.. :mayuri:

well, ive crashed vista before, crashed that badboy hardcore. it just looked like a normal bsod to me. then again, i didnt read it.

[benhur99ph]

Watch this guys.... very amusing... hahahaha.. :mayuri:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNqPTOb31S8

[enpc]

try this one, it explains vista well:
enjoy :D (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/857874/vista_true_info/)

[danieldosia]

Lol enpc it was funny, too bad XP is all that + more, even the updates of win XP makes it crash and many other problems :p

[benhur99ph]

hahahahaha... that made my day enpc!!! :mayuri:

[enpc]

windows CE ME and NT.... hhhmmm i wonder. seriously, could they have been that short sighted.

[benhur99ph]

Yeah... what were they thinking??? Haha.. they should have at least tried to make the names interesting... :mayuri:

[enpc]

or at least not spelt something dumb when u put them together.

[benhur99ph]

yeah... windows cement... I wonder what they will come up with next... :mayuri:

[enpc]

windows TO, windows IL, windoews ET. just a guess, but it seems like something the microsoft marketting department would do.

[Zangetsu666]

XP and Vista, I might get a Mac this year...

[toushirou-sama]

XP and Vista, vista is more reliable though..

[enpc]

XP and Vista, vista is more reliable though..

u r kidding right? please tell me ur kidding....

[benhur99ph]

XP and Vista, vista is more reliable though..

there seems to be a small (very very small) percentage that says this types of things.... a question sir... how do you use your vista? for gaming? or just for everyday computer tasks like typing or net surfing? do you use it for programmings... say use it for Visual Studio .Net? or do you use it for graphics development? ....im just curious... :mayuri:

[eotwgirl]

i use osX g4 mac for graphics and what not
at school we have one classroom that uses nasty dells running vista
i had a class in that room last semester and got one this semester in the same room i cant do anything on them click the icon and wait a year for the progam to load then it asks if i want to run the program and why does vista try to look like mac? when it cant do anything like a mac

[danieldosia]

there seems to be a small (very very small) percentage that says this types of things.... a question sir... how do you use your vista? for gaming? or just for everyday computer tasks like typing or net surfing? do you use it for programmings... say use it for Visual Studio .Net? or do you use it for graphics development? ....im just curious... :mayuri:

I use it for all of the above (less gaming lately). Some programs like Photoshop CS3 and Premiere CS3 work better on Vista than XP, xp got a virus from a stupid add ( and no it wasn't on on naughty sites or whatever some of you might think, it was on a site with anime news, and even tough i had the popup blocker on and add showed and redirected me to a stupid site with animal protection and them a lil toolbar with a virus installed itself even tough i had Kaspersky, and Norton instaled) and surprise, it got all the way to svchost, and no antivirus can remove something that infected svchost, but anyway i still have it together with Vista. On Vista i got only spam and hacking warnings that were removed/cleaned/stopped, so far nothing, it runs great, just like in the first day.

For Gaming:
Better than XP, not only for DX10. Games designed for Vista (not only DX10 but also DX 9 compatible) already started to have problems on XP and 2008 it's going to be even worst for XP.

For normal use:
It's way better for usual stuff like movies, internet, music, photos and any other thing you would want to do. It's 99% better optimised for multicore processors and even with all the visual stuff and hardware requirements you all complain it's stil way faster than XP, on XP you have all those resorces and do nothing with them and it still sucks no mather if have a Blue Gene computer in your howse. For multimedia stuff it's better than XP and has almost everything, to get this on XP you need to install some other programs that are less efficient or have a high price.

For programming:

If you want to programm in Visual Studio or Visual Basic it works excellent, just as good as on XP, there could be some compatibility problems with certain C++ files. For what i programm on it, basic stuff and a lil advanced (but not too advanced :p) stuff, in Visual Studio it works just fine.

For Graphics development:
It's better on Vista (at least for me), i use Photoshop CS 3, Premiere CS 3, and Encore CS 3, the aplications run faster, takes less time to load, and (not related to performance) they integrate perfect in Vista, the visual aspect.:p

Vista needs alot of RAM 1.03-1.4 gb (i have 4GB), on XP you only have 3gb that are detected so it doesn't matter.
Vista + Norton doesn't kill your RAM, when i only use winamp or vlc or wmp and the other programms that run in the background it uses 1.1-1.2gb and when i scan with Norton (2008) it gets to 1.35gb (max) ------ i don't know how many processes Vista has alone but when i open the PC i have 96 without opening anything, just the background programs.

There are 2 dissadvantages to Vista:
1) this doesn't bother me but anyway- some compatibility issues may occur woth older C++ files or programs
2) bothers me quite alot :(- because of certain things form Vista that interfere with XP, Xp (only XP with drivers) has 20 GB :( and Vista has 50 GB:( (of wich 25 can be deleted because they hold extra stuff for system restore, diagnostic, and those kind of things - i would delete them but i rather not :() i have 1.2 terra of disk space but still 70 gb only for the OS :(is pretty much. I remember when i had a 40 GB HDD and now only the OS is almost twice as that.


For those of you who are waiting for a service pack for Vitsa, it's already out, Service Pack 1 together with SP3 for XP.

[Nowshin]

Right now I'm using WIndows Vista. Waste of money, though. XP works fine.

[benhur99ph]

got a virus from a stupid add ( and no it wasn't on on naughty sites or whatever some of you might think

:D uh-huh....

Well, I see that you have 4GB of RAM which is probably why you have such a smooth vista experience...

ahhhh.. I can imagine myself using your 4GB of RAM together with my linux.... hehehe... :mayuri:

[Freeze]

I'm using Windows XP Home Edition, SP2

[benhur99ph]

Has Microsoft released the XP-sevice pack-3 yet??? :mayuri:

[danieldosia]

Yes for a while now. I installed it on XP and it works just fine, they still say it is beta but i installed it anyway, because they said it's done and they only want it to be tested by users to see if there are compatibility problems that need to be solved, so far for me none, so download and instal it :) it has arround 400mb or so

[Moeder]

Windows vista home premium here :renjib:

[benhur99ph]

does it make xp like vista... you know... ask you again and again when you install a program or run an app?? :mayuri:

[nightwish]

Does XP Sp3 make it so I can run Halo 2 PC on my XP system?


benhur99ph your thinking of the Pox - on - humanity known as UAC (User Acount Control)

It can be turned off rather easily.

[Freeze]

I forgot to mention that my phone uses an Operating System as well :D
So, right now I'm using Windows XP, Home Edition, Service Pack 3 (just updated) and Symbian s60, 3rd edition

[Woot_etc]

Windows Xp Service pack 3 :D

[benhur99ph]

What can you guys say about XP Service Pack 3? :mayuri:

[Woot_etc]

nothing at all. didnt really see anything new.

[benhur99ph]

awww,, if that's the case then I wouldn't go to all the trouble of downloading it... I have another computer at home and it runs on xp sp2... was planning on getting sp3 for it, but I wanna hear some reviews first.. :mayuri:

[Woot_etc]

well, its still the release candidate 1 (the last time i looked) and the difference between it and sp2 are only updates and a better firewall.

[inuyashasama]

I read in PC world that Vista can take up to half a dual core processor, though i can't remember how fast the processor was. In any case XP FTW!

[benhur99ph]

I guess vista was really inteded for newer pc's... because I keep hearing stuff like, vista eats resources and this and that...

:mayuri:

[Woot_etc]

well i used windows xp now
and windows vista is awesome. but still i want to learn how to use a linux

u want linux? try ubuntu www.ubuntu.com they send you free cds and free downloads
----------
I guess vista was really inteded for newer pc's... because I keep hearing stuff like, vista eats resources and this and that...

:mayuri:

ohh yea, vista can eat your resources just as fast as :yoruichi: can eat food

[russiandobby]

using a windows xp for now, probably will install vista for direct x 10 games

[benhur99ph]

u want linux? try ubuntu www.ubuntu.com they send you free cds and free downloads

How right you are... Ubuntu for me is the best distro to date as far as user-friendliness is concerned. I started using it about 5 months ago and as a noob I found it pretty easy to use. :mayuri:

[Woot_etc]

How right you are... Ubuntu for me is the best distro to date as far as user-friendliness is concerned. I started using it about 5 months ago and as a noob I found it pretty easy to use. :mayuri:

how is it? ive had it downloaded for a few weeks now and never got around to burning it.

-----
Does anyone know when Directx 9.0L is coming out for xp?

[danieldosia]

You have been missinformed, the latest news about DX 9.L state that it is only for Vista, it is not DX 10 for XP, but it is weird that they made dx 9l specially for Vista when there is dx 10, thats what all the recent news say about DX9L, it is not for XP, they said that the older news about it beeing DX 10 for XP are wrong.

[benhur99ph]

how is it? ive had it downloaded for a few weeks now and never got around to burning it.

Well, it works best for me. I have tried numerous linux distros in the past few months and Ubuntu outshines the others in terms of ease of use. Check out their forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org

If you have a question about ubuntu, you will most likely find it there. :mayuri:

[Arcsocon]

my desktop is using Windows XP SP2 for the moment, my laptop is using Windows 2000 ( this is my illegal stuff computer and everyone knows that some stuff are easier to hack on 2000 then on XP) and last but least my PS3 has gameOS.
*sighs from having to type so much*

[Ervis3h18]

i have one XP Pro SP2, windows server 2003 R2 and windows server 2008 RC1, i use Xp for the everyday computer and the server for playing around

[forcewill]

I've used windows 95, 98, xp and now Vista Ultimate x64.
And Gnu/Linux Gentoo.

What i have to say about them all is that nothing beats Linux in terms of personalization. About other issues won't say nothing don't want a flame war here :p

now im currently using just Vista mainly because of VS.

[benhur99ph]

That's true.... you can really personalize linux to suit whatever taste you have....
"mayuri:

[enpc]

That's true.... you can really personalize linux to suit whatever taste you have....
"mayuri:

yeah, stupid :p



naw, im just kidding....
anyways, change of subject. i think im going to have to start using vista, which i am not looking foward to

[benhur99ph]

--to enpc--

Aww come on.. admit it... Linux is great at customization.. hehe...

Hahahaha! So why are you going to use vista? Did someone held you at gunpoint and demanded that you use vista? Now... I saw this picture and I somehow think that this would be you...

http://www.applereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/vista_experience.jpg

[Total_Maniac]

yeah, stupid :p



naw, im just kidding....
anyways, change of subject. i think im going to have to start using vista, which i am not looking foward to

Hey vista's pretty good I have Vista Ultimate and it's a breeze to use, At first it's a bit confusing but after a few days of using it it's quiet easy to navigate around the computer:D

[enpc]

--to enpc--

Aww come on.. admit it... Linux is great at customization.. hehe...

Hahahaha! So why are you going to use vista? Did someone held you at gunpoint and demanded that you use vista? Now... I saw this picture and I somehow think that this would be you...

http://www.applereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/vista_experience.jpg

ah, the joys of ctrl alt del :D i have seen that before. (ive read like all of them)

Hey vista's pretty good I have Vista Ultimate and it's a breeze to use, At first it's a bit confusing but after a few days of using it it's quiet easy to navigate around the computer:D

did u not see my analogy with the squirrel and the mack truck?

but in all seriousness, im getting a new laptop and guess what the operating system is going to be? yep, u guessed it....

[Total_Maniac]

ah, the joys of ctrl alt del :D i have seen that before. (ive read like all of them)



did u not see my analogy with the squirrel and the mack truck?

but in all seriousness, im getting a new laptop and guess what the operating system is going to be? yep, u guessed it....
no I didn't but yeah at first it''sslike where is everything then after a few days it's like I get it now.... well when I go on mum's computer Im like urrr where is that?? I cca't find it.. cause m mum has windows xp media and I have vista so it's a big change in my opinon but overall it' alright
:isane:

[enpc]

no I didn't but yeah at first it''sslike where is everything then after a few days it's like I get it now.... well when I go on mum's computer Im like urrr where is that?? I cca't find it.. cause m mum has windows xp media and I have vista so it's a big change in my opinon but overall it' alright
:isane:

oh, dont get me wrong, it is an operating system, but i dunno, ot will be ok... maybe. im just not happy with afew things i heard about it.

[Total_Maniac]

By all means it won't be ultra perfect but I didn't hear anything bad about it because I didn't look into it lolz and I only got my comp last week so im still getting used to it :D

[hugzzz07]

I have windows XP...lol...service pack 2...yes it's old...hahahha

[benhur99ph]

but in all seriousness, im getting a new laptop and guess what the operating system is going to be? yep, u guessed it....

hahaha!! enpc's going to use vista!!! what irony!!! :D guess you will be the squirrel now... but... if it turns out to be vista.. you can always format your laptop and replace the OS right? or do you REALLY have to use it... and for what purpose? :mayuri:

[enpc]

hahaha!! enpc's going to use vista!!! what irony!!! :D guess you will be the squirrel now... but... if it turns out to be vista.. you can always format your laptop and replace the OS right? or do you REALLY have to use it... and for what purpose? :mayuri:

im thinking i might format it, but at least the laptop is a dual 2.4 with 3 gb of ram and an 256 mb video card. lag reduction ftw!

[HarkerFrost]

vista all the way baby :D:D:D:D

[Total_Maniac]

haha go vista!! these are my specifics for my comp don't know what half of them mean tho:rolleyes:

Intel core 2 duo processer, 2048mb ddr2, 500gb 3g hard drive and nvida geforce 8500gt 3d....Running system: Windows Vista Ultimate ( not a cheap package I can tell ya;)) also some sorta lightscribe thingy for Dvd's and such:confused:

What are your specs? lolz and I aint bragging just don't understand what half the stuff is lol..:D

[benhur99ph]

Running system: Windows Vista Ultimate ( not a cheap package I can tell ya;))

How much did it cost you? I don't understand. How big is the difference between Vista Home Premium and Vista Ultimate? Aside from the price, is it worth to spend more on the ultimate edition? :confused: :mayuri:

[Total_Maniac]

dunno realy except the fact that you can create a backup disk.... and I meant the whole computer package thingy lols it wasn' cheap prolly $6000au plus it was custom made :D

[benhur99ph]

Wow... too expensive... so the other vistas don't have the capability to create backup disks? tsk tsk... :mayuri:

[Total_Maniac]

lols I didn't pay for it Thank god if i did I woulda had a heart attack. well al the others can create back up disks except home and hoome premium.. but im not sure.. just to check go into your control panel and type where it says search in the top right corner "backup disk/copy" it should come up with some thing..:D

[enpc]

or u could do it the old fashioned way with copy/paste.

[Total_Maniac]

haha lols that'd work well to for sure :D just depends on how much time/money you want to spend on creating backup copys of all your stuff

[enpc]

well, if u have a tidy hard drive it can take like 2 minutes.

[Total_Maniac]

my hard drive's kinda tidy, i think i need to defrag it I just might do that tomorrow I think...can't have your uber fast computer slowing down:D

[enpc]

vista defrag? after a week? although i wouldnt doubt it, i wouldnt want to try it either.

*vista has cleaned and defragmented your hard drive by removing critical windows elements. your computer is officially broken moreso than when you installed windows vista. you have officially been screwed. have a nice day.*

my guess for the error message that comes up after the defrag :D

[benhur99ph]

Defrag? You are going to defrag your 500gb hard drive? How much of it have you used already? But then there's the fact that your hardware specs are high.... I wonder how long it would take to finish... if you can set a timer... let's see how long it takes to finish the defrag.. I am really intrigued.. :mayuri:

[Total_Maniac]

Defrag? You are going to defrag your 500gb hard drive? How much of it have you used already? But then there's the fact that your hardware specs are high.... I wonder how long it would take to finish... if you can set a timer... let's see how long it takes to finish the defrag.. I am really intrigued.. :mayuri:

It takes about a hour for roughly 50GB lols too long for my busy day!!:D It'd prolly take 2 days for a full 500gb hard drive:eek: it'll never get that full i hope..:D